Glimpse of Far-Flung Hope

[PaulKH]

No matter how dream-experienced someone becomes, no matter how many dreams they learn to remember the details from, I think there will always be dreams which catch them by surprise and they struggle to remember. I had one such dream last night where I just assumed it was the normal mind processing stuff, adding in flavors of what my waking life was involved in, but then all the sudden I was in the middle of an epic scene and was completely unprepared to process it! Perhaps this was meant to be only a glimpse or perhaps it was my "in-character" self, but I fear it's because I grew complacent and not used to having such strong dreams (it's been a long run of mild/pleasant dreams for me, many months, and so in some ways I feel lulled or out of practice). Anyway, here's what I could remember of the action-and-thought jumble:

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Perhaps in our distant future there exists such mind-control technology or entities that whenever we begin to think independently, when we begin drifting back toward our intended state, a machine flies up to us, pins us to the ground, attaches to us, and effectively resets all our hopes and dreams to the state where they no longer motivate us, so that instead we are only able to do what we are told [I cannot remember exactly how that worked, sadly, but in the dream I just knew all that from past experience].

I saw this happen to a woman near me, poor thing! She had screamed how this wasn't right, and other things I don't recall because I wasn't really paying attention, just passing by.

I mean, it's pointless: she's "pacified" like all the others, pinned to the ground and the wicked-effective machine bulk over her will reset her. But out of the corner of my eye, I see her still struggling. That's odd. I turn my head and even take a step closer before I can help myself. Sure enough, it has its thin. dark metal pins through her outer shoulders and hips, and yet she is still struggling and actually *glaring* up at it. Instead of the glassy-eyes we've come to expect--she's glaring!

I don't know what comes over me. I am pushing the machine off her now that it seems to be the one in a daze, and I am making sure she is unhurt. The complex look in her eyes scares me and so I promptly forget it, even while helping her to her feet and avoiding her gaze. I know we must run and hide her, to find out how she could manage, so maybe--just maybe--this marvelous resistance can spread to others, to me. [But then I am elsewhere.]

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Only once awake did I recall the feeling that it must have been some kind of evolving. That after all we had lost of ourselves, there was some change that could evolve us if we let it or spread it, like the hope of being able to rise out of this impossible problem. And also I recognized this potential existing even today in how we resist forms of mind control, even within the stamping out efforts of cultures or religions or "governing"/fascist systems that try for complete control (or "submission" of self). I have long known this to be a form of slow-death, a draining away of human potential into something altogether pathetic and empty. And at the very least, this dream hinted at avenues even in the darkest times that could allow us to reclaim ourselves. The potential, at least, might still remain, and based on all I have witnessed, this is a comfort to me.

 

[Helia]

I can feel into that dream, Paul.
I had a few of what I call apocalyptic dreams...our world right now might trigger such dreams...Every day I am more and more concerned about what is happening.
Prof. David Tacey ( a modern Jungian and a Prof. In literatur) wrote a book about that...he said he sees the "darkening of the Spirit"...in a way as if the SPIRIT would turn against us.
My dream: I am watching the Ocean and out of the endless surface of the water an EAR come up....listening to us....and THE VOICE Says: THEY think they can do what they want..!
Then in german: dem ist nicht so..
This ist not so...🙏
As if we are in apocalyptic times

 

[supertonman20]

There's always hope for all of us I have a dream, The train arrives at 2 pm, I immediately saw a woman, she looks worry and distressed I met her and tell her that she didn't feeling better, she proceed to tell me that a man was trying to harm her, so I send her home and I got medical kit to heal her wounds, she begin biting her finger nails, and I stopped her from doing it too hard, for a case like this, this could be a lot of dark nightmare puzzle patterns for the woman because she doesn't know what it meant to her well being, I'll calm her down take the glass cup of water and feed her here, I really analyze her injured eye and I confront her with questions about her behavior then she gives up and said that it was her husband who beat her up, I thought she had a confrontation with a stalker but I heard the truth, that hurt me worse if I can remember, I went to her husband's house with a baseball bat and hit him on the head, I then tell him to stay away from his wife and he runs away never saw him since, I going back home and I tell the woman that I saw him and that he accepted to get her out of his life, she agrees and 6 days later she filled for divorce, and moved on as a single woman feel bad for that person but the best way for her health is to protect herself and avoid dating and marriages for good, so I completed the mission, the end of the story.

What are you guys think? Your thoughts on this?

God made me the best man that the states needed my help, good day to save the Innocent woman. 🙏

Superhero protect the Innocent woman from her estranged husband.

 

[PaulKH]

Hello, you two. This thread could easily become about apocalyptic worries, but there are also so many more layers to consider. First of all, there's the conscious *hope* to cling to. This is a specific choice within us, not because we think something will be factual, but because we sometimes realize that the only thing we can control is our attitude-emotions. At some point of wisdom, we realize it is always better for us and everyone around us if we cling to hope, even during the darkest of suspicions (much as the one who knows they are headed to certain death chooses to be serene and kind along the way).

Both this understanding and fear of it all ending badly is repeated during dark times in history and in several kinds of scripture. Look up the 5000-year-old writing of Princess-Priestess-Poet Enheduanna in her later years to get glimpses of similar lamentation. Anyway, our dreams will sometimes whisper this choice-of-goodness to us, and more often they will reflect back upon us the negativity or judgmentalism in our thoughts, as if to hold up a mirror and show us the darkness in our own minds (as a teaching method to ask if we like what we see in ourselves and are satisfied with that). Perhaps it wants us to find the larger perspective that yields wisdom instead of non-helpful worry.

Our dreams' near-endless creativity not only comes from our unique views (in essence, our "translating" what we have seen), but from the nuances and layers of complexity all around us. Despite that, our pattern-recognizing minds can often see similar messages (trends, as perhaps written about by Prof. Tacey). In this particular case, that we can *feel* our time is limited (even as a species), that there exists many good and bad paths for our overall health, and that we have traveled far down some bad paths. I think it more likely that our dreams, in all their variety and creativity, keep urging us to act before it is too late, before our potential has run dry as sentient beings. People tend to get depressed or become maudlin/resigned about these messages-to-our-spirit, but that is completely unhelpful. I choose to believe that the overall message is more along the lines of, "You haven't found the right answers, so look harder/deeper: you think you see your answers but dem ist nicht so."

Agreeing with supertonman20: there is still hope for us. The ancient saying basically says "while there is thought, there is hope" which reflects the conscious attitude that it is more healthy and helpful to struggle to be better, even unto the end. And when you can not only do this for yourself but also for others, that is a precious and blessed thing. Even in dreams, we can play out this helping and correcting and hope-practicing--again, we could have a thousand varieties of this fundamental message and still not see all the ways this message could resonate with us. Certain types of dreams act like mind-expanding exercises, attitude-enforcing boosts, especially when it comes to helping others, as you did in your dream, sup20: problem recognition, acting through love-protection, doing what you could to right the wrong, prevention, comforting the victim so she can heal. These are vitally important steps since without them, we cannot get further in the healthy directions. Understanding those steps and how to practice those and be ready...we *can* preserve and boost what is pure-good in us (as in the dream-woman who could survive her bad past with your help and then move onward).