Art On the Ground

[Will]

I'm at a strange later life university and it's like - how am I gonna spend my time? I walk around the outdoor landscaped areas, lawns, walkways. I figure I'll just be getting better at drawing and painting. That will keep my head together. Aware of other students that don't yet know me well. Some are beginning to.

I come to an area - a sort of lawn or space with paints and maybe clay at one end ready for use. This is my canvas. I start to paint on this plot - sorta sculpting too? Mainly painting I guess. It's spontaneous and unplanned. I hope it comes out well. I just go ahead and do it.

After a while it fills up with imagery. One part of it looks like a little town. Areal view of town in vibrant colors. I kinda like how it's coming out.

A young woman I've been seeing around is sitting at the paints end a little way back. Noticing what I'm doing. She steps up and I show her the painting - we walk through it and come up on the little town part. She's encouraging, curious about me.





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[Harvey]

Hallo Will, welcome on Dreamforum, the "life university", the University of The Language of Live, what it should be , is what you are discribing in this dream! "The landscapes ... walkways" refer to the architecture of the forum, the way it works and ..., at the same time, the dreams and comments in it from the members, each one, individualy, a 'house' (with the couple, member and his or her individual soul).

Yes, you are enthousiastic ("I figure I'll just be getting better at drawing and painting") , as I did 3 december 2025, a year ago, when I ended up here! The "painting" refers to the spiritual language, the imagery, the discription of what you see in the dream as a dreamer and expressing it to others, the fellow members, "the other students" as you said. Yes, dreams are indeed full of imagery. The area with the "paints and canvas" are of course the feature that / where you can write your dream down and publish it.

Your dreamlanguage is clear, so I am, in this case "the entusiastic woman" in this 'painting', encouriging you, curious about you, Welcome!

 

[Will]

Wow thanks a lot Harvey. Nice parallel I don't think the dream was actually 'about' this dream forum but it's ok to parallel it. I have a lot of dreams about art and music. I'm a creative guy and stuff. Usually my medium has been music. But also the other two biggies - drawing/painting and literary output.

I have a lot of dreams about colleges and universities too which is more or less where this dream took place. Lots of other things too though.

I'm wondering whether this can be one a really interesting discussion group where discussion of dreams leads to conversations about what's going on in people's lives and also any related topics and philosophical subjects and whatever. To me that's what makes dream sharing really fun and interesting.

I really don't want to come across as overly critical but it doesn't seem to really be doing that. Lots of threads with 0 or 1 replies and often a fairly hum drum feel. Also not much waking life background to give dimension and context. I know there isn't time or whatever to respond to everything but I can see it being more active and gaining a lot more momentum and interest. It's the first forum that comes up on Google for a dream forum.

I really do appreciate your encouragement though so thanks.

Will

 

[Harvey]

Thank you for your sincere reaction, ... it is at least a reaction and I apreciate that, because is the only way I can 'see if you understand what I have suggested. But it came along whit a 'Wow', so I really don't understand what the purpose is for that if you say that DONT THINK that it is about this forum. But that you SEE a what you called a PARALLEL. ..... and that parallel I I imediately 'saw' from reading the text: Don't think that I have sat down finding out how I ganna put something together to make some work of art. As i was writing my reaction, I would like to say a lot more,but as you said "there isn't time or whatever to respond / go in depth to everything", ... that is for the "filosophical discussion", where you and every other member can interrogate me, asking me the clothes of my skin, about the 'how' to come to the thruth. That would make this forum a real university of dream(s) / explaining! As you said, I agree: that would make dream sharing really fun and interesting. So there is no 'over critical' in a filosofical envirement where The Truth is what we are looking for. I really ave a lot more to say but because of the day, december 31 and, that is stuff for a couple of days in the new year.

 

[PaulKH]

I like parallels -- they are a time-honored way of bringing forth discussion (especially about differing points of view). Analogies/analogs are as old as storytelling, and perhaps once were the *entirety* of storytelling, back when everything had purpose (forward-momentum). So please don't get discouraged or be too-quick to criticize or close up that explorer's mind. (If one "makes up their mind", then they close it to all the things they have yet to see.)

In Harvey's interpretation, I see this as also a hope, as a sign of what this space *can* be if we allow it. Isn't that what you are also wanting in a critical way, Will? Perhaps because I have read all your posts in a short time, I see both the desire and the bundled statement of disappointment that it isn't already the case -- in a critical way that risks undermining the very thing you want. This is not the kind of forward-momentum we'd want this university to have, right?

So perhaps a *rewind* (dream-like) is in order. Sharing and learning is an *additive* activity, a compiling of thoughts and views and *reactive-considerations*, not a competitive beast. So perhaps all us students should remember this before adding.

*goes off humming "Give A Little Bit"*

 

[Will]

Haha I love both those replies! You're right Paul, I shouldn't jump to conclusions yet, especially after being on this forum for a relatively short time But, see, being honest did spark a bit more energy of discussion, didn't it? I guess that's why I allowed myself that criticality.

Harvey your reply was weird and cool! You guys bring me new hope that we can spark this up a bit.

Happy New Year and hit me with some cool dreams. They don't even have to be that 'symbolically significant' and whatever (though naturally they can be). Sometimes I like the weird early night or some accidental phase or hypnagogic or whatever dreams that are somewhat beyond explanation and full of vibes. The ones that spook you incongruously and haunt-leg-kick your eyelids and play with sleep room forms while suggesting sub-and-super-spook-spooling anthems.

Note: See my other charged dream of my brother and Spanish restaurant patio and delicious dish and Who song.

 

[PaulKH]

But, see, being honest did spark a bit more energy of discussion, didn't it? I guess that's why I allowed myself that criticality.

Please challenge yourself with the insight that there is a *world* of difference between positive stimuli and negative ones. If we in fact want a cooperative setting here, we must inspire that as much as we can (without losing our critical, non-permissive nature, because it's a vital part of discernment). Musicians know this well, perhaps better than most, having studied the many subtle (and not so subtle) distinctions between music and noise. So we must take that understanding and apply it to this form of communication-sharing; more harmony than dissonance (and wherever possible, dissonance should still have productive purpose).

 

[PaulKH]

Happy New Year and hit me with some cool dreams.

Plenty here already:

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So, wow...what an experience gift! 😄 First of all was the time compression. This rare and detailed dream came after I had gotten up for a bio break and glanced at the time, and then again when I woke up, so I know for a fact it took less than 3 hours to give me multiple days of adventure...

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et cetera I have a fictionalized novel packed with a significant variety actual dreams (interwoven in purpose) that's easy to find by searching my name and "Dream Knights".

 

[Will]

Cool! I'll check that out if you check out my song. Deal?

Well ok I might just check it out anyway

 

[Harvey]

Hi Will,
This dream is highly connected to your dream titeled:

Totally Bizarre Charged Dream Early Evening

so look there too because I used data out of that dream to clarify some things!

Here am I again. I promised to come back in the new year to say a few more words about this dream. But if you were really true to what you believe the forum should be, And You Are Very Very Wright About That, I'm with you, ... YOU should have asked the questions to throw more light about the interpretation. Because I can wright down a lot of pages more, but I don't know your need.

But in this case it is what it is. You in the first place and Everybody can verify "munching at the good consistency of the dish" that the woman, the very waitres have served you (as a humble servant of God) :

In other words it means Considering That What Your Individual Soul Had Put Together in your mind as a dream, and What My Individual Soul and I as a Interpreter (the waitres, who served in His-Her asignment as a servent Of God) have interpreted.

GOD, The Intelligent Energy and His Children, Our Souls have humor. Thus "You better, You Better, You Bet" ... Beleave That, after Munching Alltogether That They, Your Twin Brother Laughing (Representing Your Soul , and The Waitres ( Representing the couple Me-My Soul), Indeed "speak spanish"!

'Spanish' that is The Dreamlanguage / The Language Of The Soul: Literally Psycho-Logy, The Motherlanguage of all human beings (The Human Race, your "Extended Family, walking around on the forum like you, seeking solution fot their dreams!"

Obviously, the dream was meant to me to solve it. 'Spanish' refer to what I somehow call my 'Alma Mater': The Spanish dreamforum where I have developed my skills by interpreting thousands of dreams, before I found (this) Dreamforum. My 'Alma Pater' so to say is My Soul / God because I swear: Now Human Being have teached me this language: it was an assignment, a gift, A Talent, that I'm very gratefull for.

Yes it is "weird", mind boggling and I can understand that you and the great majority of mankind can't wrap it around their mind, but I dare to say that if you realy seek The Truth, God Almighty, The Creator, you will get steadily get better!

So see "I figured I just be getting better at drawing and painting" that must be interpreted as "(if I become member of dreamforum), I will get better and better in understanding at least (my own) dreamlanguage / my dreams", a suggestion given by your Soul, Child of God.

Dreams are not isolated from eachother and imagery and words in dreams link together.

 

[PaulKH]

Cool! I'll check that out if you check out my song. Deal?

Well ok I might just check it out anyway

Heh, you were the one who asked for them ("hit me with some cool dreams"). So there's no cause nor requirement for a tit-for-tat arrangement; however, I both understand it as common among creative types --we like to share, of course -- and mentioned (or at least implied) in the other thread that I had listened to your song (and already had to remove the nasty Soundcloud spam bot from my email -- push-marketing is truly a modern plague on good-thinking humans!). Anyway, do with it what you will, Will.

 

[Will]

Hi Will,
This dream is highly connected to your dream titeled:

Totally Bizarre Charged Dream Early Evening

so look there too because I used data out of that dream to clarify some things!

Here am I again. I promised to come back in the new year to say a few more words about this dream. But if you were really true to what you believe the forum should be, And You Are Very Very Wright About That, I'm with you, ... YOU should have asked the questions to throw more light about the interpretation. Because I can wright down a lot of pages more, but I don't know your need.

But in this case it is what it is. You in the first place and Everybody can verify "munching at the good consistency of the dish" that the woman, the very waitres have served you (as a humble servant of God) :

In other words it means Considering That What Your Individual Soul Had Put Together in your mind as a dream, and What My Individual Soul and I as a Interpreter (the waitres, who served in His-Her asignment as a servent Of God) have interpreted.

GOD, The Intelligent Energy and His Children, Our Souls have humor. Thus "You better, You Better, You Bet" ... Beleave That, after Munching Alltogether That They, Your Twin Brother Laughing (Representing Your Soul , and The Waitres ( Representing the couple Me-My Soul), Indeed "speak spanish"!

'Spanish' that is The Dreamlanguage / The Language Of The Soul: Literally Psycho-Logy, The Motherlanguage of all human beings (The Human Race, your "Extended Family, walking around on the forum like you, seeking solution fot their dreams!"

Obviously, the dream was meant to me to solve it. 'Spanish' refer to what I somehow call my 'Alma Mater': The Spanish dreamforum where I have developed my skills by interpreting thousands of dreams, before I found (this) Dreamforum. My 'Alma Pater' so to say is My Soul / God because I swear: Now Human Being have teached me this language: it was an assignment, a gift, A Talent, that I'm very gratefull for.

Yes it is "weird", mind boggling and I can understand that you and the great majority of mankind can't wrap it around their mind, but I dare to say that if you realy seek The Truth, God Almighty, The Creator, you will get steadily get better!

So see "I figured I just be getting better at drawing and painting" that must be interpreted as "(if I become member of dreamforum), I will get better and better in understanding at least (my own) dreamlanguage / my dreams", a suggestion given by your Soul, Child of God.

Dreams are not isolated from eachother and imagery and words in dreams link together.

Wow thanks Harvey! I've been away for a little bit. But a very interesting response Again these seem like fairly general Statements, and more like parallels. But I like the inter- connection and your kinda surreal use of language. Language is an interconnector in itself. Is English your first language?

Visionary and religious and things - yeah! I do seek God. I try to. Hopefully to become better. "You better you better you bet." You better better yourself. In some coded way that song suggests that maybe?

Is Spanish your first language? Were you really on a Spanish language dream forum?

There's a slightly cryptic nature to your replies Harvey. But I get the gist. Thanks a lot. Any clarifications welcome.

 

[Will]

Heh, you were the one who asked for them ("hit me with some cool dreams"). So there's no cause nor requirement for a tit-for-tat arrangement; however, I both understand it as common among creative types --we like to share, of course -- and mentioned (or at least implied) in the other thread that I had listened to your song (and already had to remove the nasty Soundcloud spam bot from my email -- push-marketing is truly a modern plague on good-thinking humans!). Anyway, do with it what you will, Will.

 

[Will]

Hey Paul. Well thanks - Ive been elsewhere occupied for a bit. Thanks for checking out the tune. Hope you dug it. It's from a whole ago. I changed a few lyrics since then at the end of the song to make them a bit more focused and coherent. Sorry bout the spam bot lol.

I'll try and probably succeed to look at these other dreams you linked.

 

[Will]

Plenty here already:

Multiple fascinations from a single < 3hr dream

So, wow...what an experience gift! 😄 First of all was the time compression. This rare and detailed dream came after I had gotten up for a bio break and glanced at the time, and then again when I woke up, so I know for a fact it took less than 3 hours to give me multiple days of adventure...

dreamforum.net

More Hints of Else-when

In the past I've had epic dreams of situations so far outside my own that I feel they come from somewhere else; they thrill and blow open my life experience! I'm often simply a passenger/analyst, but sometimes I play some subtle yet pivotal role by offering a perspective set or even a single...

dreamforum.net

The Puzzle Room of Knowledge

Again I was with 3 other people, but the impression I got was of peers, perhaps student-explorers in archeology. Because we were inside mortared stone chambers that reminded me of an Aztec pyramid/temple: very foreign looking, walls of smoothed river rocks in various shades of brown held...

dreamforum.net

et cetera I have a fictionalized novel packed with a significant variety actual dreams (interwoven in purpose) that's easy to find by searching my name and "Dream Knights".

 

[Will]

Hey Paul I just ordered your Dream Knights book! Plenty to dig into here! Still gotta read the dreams. Good for you for writing a a whole novel based on them!

 

[PaulKH]

Good for you for writing a a whole novel based on them!

You will find the novel to be much more than a collection of dreams. May the whole also inspire your life exploration.

 

[Will]

Thanks!